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the latest rasmussen poll shows governor romney leading the president by two points. 49% to 47. larry sabato, author of pendulum swing joins us from charlottesville. good evening, larry. >> good evening, judge. >> good to have you with us tonight. so we had a change there is no question that romney won the debate. the numbers are moving in romney's direction. the money is moving in his direction. what will happen at the town hall? >> well, governor romney has to continue to score big. remember bounces fade. he is getting a bounce. how could he not? 67 million people watched that debate. and show saw the tremendous gap that existed between the two candidates on the stage. as jon stewart said there is no red america, there is no it blue america, this is just an america that agrees that president obama bombed at the debate. and look, judge, to put it into context, four years ago when mccain and obama debated, 5 million tuned in. this was a much larger audience. but romney has to continue the momentum. he has to score big at the two remaining debates to continue the momentum. >> jud
the latest rasmussen poll shows governor romney leading the president by two points. 49% to 47. larry sabato, author of pendulum swing joins us from charlottesville. good evening, larry. >> good evening, judge. >> good to have you with us tonight. so we had a change there is no question that romney won the debate. the numbers are moving in romney's direction. the money is moving in his direction. what will happen at the town hall? >> well, governor romney has to continue to...
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the rasmussen pressial tracking poll says clearly that he does. scott scores the rates romney 49% to obama's 47%. but today's gallup daily tracking poll still has the president up slightly saturday's gallup scoring the race obama 49% to romney's 46%. nowyer with reflects the current reality it is obviously a razor thin margin. so is there added pressure on the vice presidential candidates for their are thursday night debate? and who better to ask than bill kristol, the editor of "the weekly standard." was chief of staff for are then senator dan quayle during his debate against senator lloyd benson. while he probably lost the debate the bush quail ticket won the 1988 election in a landslide. how important then are vice presidential debates, bill? welcome. what do you think? >> i think this vice presidential debate is important because mitt romney won so big last week on wednesday night. the question for paul ryan is can he protect in a way mitt romney's achievement and can he consolidate it and after the romney debate after the ryan debate in a sen
the rasmussen pressial tracking poll says clearly that he does. scott scores the rates romney 49% to obama's 47%. but today's gallup daily tracking poll still has the president up slightly saturday's gallup scoring the race obama 49% to romney's 46%. nowyer with reflects the current reality it is obviously a razor thin margin. so is there added pressure on the vice presidential candidates for their are thursday night debate? and who better to ask than bill kristol, the editor of "the...
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have you to remember, rasmussen, the poll thaig think is the most accurate, is a moving five-day sample. so if you will take a week before we have the full post debate polling. but there will be other polls. you will see a big shifting in the polls. joining it's retrievable by obama. i don't think you get a second chance to make a first impression. and i think that romney really scored. i thought when he explained to people that tax cut on the rich would not be on the rich, it was a tax increase on the rich, it was a tax increase on small business employers and they employ 50% of the american workforce. by raising their taxes, you are undermining their ability to create be jos. that was brilliant. i thought that really, he took away, all kinds of arguments from obama. while obama can wait until the performance wears off and people forget how stumbling and hesitant and detached he was, what will remain is the ground that he ceded to romney. >> greta: i thought it was significant that 67 million people watched this, the largest number since i think 1992. chfts a measurement to -- which wa
have you to remember, rasmussen, the poll thaig think is the most accurate, is a moving five-day sample. so if you will take a week before we have the full post debate polling. but there will be other polls. you will see a big shifting in the polls. joining it's retrievable by obama. i don't think you get a second chance to make a first impression. and i think that romney really scored. i thought when he explained to people that tax cut on the rich would not be on the rich, it was a tax...
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rasmussen has it much tighter, though. has the president up by just two points, 48 to 46 for mr. romney. could the spreading benghazi gate scandal slow the president's momentum? let's ask former governor charlie crist of the crucial battleground state of florida. governor crist it in tampa. mario diaz was in miami. governor crist, my mom says hi. still remembers you fondly when you dropped by her 85th birthday. i have to say governor rick scott is sending her love letters. i don't know, man. out of sight, out of mind. you got to get back into the game. >> your mother is a great lady and i was honored to be at her birthday and i want to thank you publicly for come doing carol and my wedding about four years ago. it was nice to have is you in st. peter's. thank you for the invitation. >> geraldo: you are great couple and i appreciated being with us. what about benghazi gate? does it have legs in florida? >> i don't think we know yet. i really don't. until you get answers to some of the questions i have seen you pose o on the segment befoe i don't think you can answer that question
rasmussen has it much tighter, though. has the president up by just two points, 48 to 46 for mr. romney. could the spreading benghazi gate scandal slow the president's momentum? let's ask former governor charlie crist of the crucial battleground state of florida. governor crist it in tampa. mario diaz was in miami. governor crist, my mom says hi. still remembers you fondly when you dropped by her 85th birthday. i have to say governor rick scott is sending her love letters. i don't know, man....
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scott rasmussen from rasmussen reports is in new jersey. scott, welcome back. those are theery latest numbers released just today, 48-48. yesterday, it was romney 49-president obama 48. is governor romney losing a little of the bounce he got from the debates? >> a little bit. there's certainly been a bounce in consumer confidence since friday's jobs report, that's helping the president a little bit. in fact, the number of people who think the economy is getting worse has fallen by 10 points following that jobs report. stuart: oh, so that the jobs report, is that factored into that number which we just gave everyone, 48-48. >> yes, they, it is. stuart: so it had an impact then? >> it did have an impact, but i want to talk about the larger picture. if we go back over the last 100 days of tracking, and get rid of the bounces and the different competing news stories, these two men have been within two points of each other, 72 days of 100. within 3 points of each other, 89 days out of 100. this race is very close and when we talk about momentum shifting, it means fr
scott rasmussen from rasmussen reports is in new jersey. scott, welcome back. those are theery latest numbers released just today, 48-48. yesterday, it was romney 49-president obama 48. is governor romney losing a little of the bounce he got from the debates? >> a little bit. there's certainly been a bounce in consumer confidence since friday's jobs report, that's helping the president a little bit. in fact, the number of people who think the economy is getting worse has fallen by 10...
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rasmussen 49-47 but that's rasmussen. polite co-,an one-point lead for president obama. when you put that all together it is not good news. what did i say again? >> it's already over. >> cenk: oops. okay, it gets worse. pew out today. 45-49--the fore four-point lead--disaster. what did that idiot say? >> cenk: it's already over. >> cenk: 12 different poll versus romney going up on average 4.5% since the debate give it to me one more time. >> it's already over. >> cenk: okay, now i'm going to show you why you shouldn't panic and why that idiot talk show host is not wrong. but first i got to say something more important. i've said like many other pundits that president obama lost that debate. and he clearly did. you look at the polls from all these different organizations they say he lost from 32 to 42 points. but i don't want to equate two things and get them confused. a tactical victory and a debate for mitt romney does not mean you should vote for him. it doesn't mean that he's right. nice job on the debate the tactics, and president obama i can't believe you screwed th
rasmussen 49-47 but that's rasmussen. polite co-,an one-point lead for president obama. when you put that all together it is not good news. what did i say again? >> it's already over. >> cenk: oops. okay, it gets worse. pew out today. 45-49--the fore four-point lead--disaster. what did that idiot say? >> cenk: it's already over. >> cenk: 12 different poll versus romney going up on average 4.5% since the debate give it to me one more time. >> it's already over....
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showing a close race or even a slight romney advantage, as in the rasmussen poll, but bottom line, president obama has got to get back to his core message of fiscal discipline and social compassion. and the governor romney is is an out of the mainstream extremist, he didn't deliver that on tuesday and he lost as a result. >> jamie: angela, what's the road map for republicans over the next 30 days. >> status quo. mitt romney, no question, that debate was a game changer, but jamie, a debate doesn't win an election, it sets the tone. he has to keep performing, keep talking about what he will do to create a better america and are you better off than you were four years ago. and we have all of these poll numbers dealing with swing states, but the polls that count, would you go to the poll and vote and i believe that people are going to vote their wallets, not going to vote their conscience, not their culture, are you better off and do you have a job. >> jamie: given the economy is such a key issue, doug, i want to look forward to the first vice-presidential debate. without a doubt, paul ryan is a
showing a close race or even a slight romney advantage, as in the rasmussen poll, but bottom line, president obama has got to get back to his core message of fiscal discipline and social compassion. and the governor romney is is an out of the mainstream extremist, he didn't deliver that on tuesday and he lost as a result. >> jamie: angela, what's the road map for republicans over the next 30 days. >> status quo. mitt romney, no question, that debate was a game changer, but jamie, a...
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stage here, and travelling on the i-4 corridor where elections are won and lost in florida and even up, rasmussen has romney up by a couple of points and trying to keep the momentum going from the great debate performance and trying to show voters he's not the scary guy that the obama campaign makes him out to be. and stopping by in a cuban restaurant and shaking hands with the folks and getting takeout and at the a campaign event in st. petersburg looking back on the president's debate performance which many saw as a flop. >> and did you hear what he had to say? i didn't either. i kept looking for a specific plan as to what he was going to do to create jobs and i heard more of the same, stimulus, hiring more government workers and raising taxes and those things don't create jobs, they cost jobs. >> meantime on the campaign trail in ohio, president obama had the fire that was absent in the debate and saying that mitt romney was not telling the truth at the debate and trying to wiggle out of his opposition. >> and day two-- well, maybe it was extreme makeover. debate edition. but no matter what he
stage here, and travelling on the i-4 corridor where elections are won and lost in florida and even up, rasmussen has romney up by a couple of points and trying to keep the momentum going from the great debate performance and trying to show voters he's not the scary guy that the obama campaign makes him out to be. and stopping by in a cuban restaurant and shaking hands with the folks and getting takeout and at the a campaign event in st. petersburg looking back on the president's debate...
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what rasmussen was saying last week. give me sunday morning or monday because you need three days of rolling averages to really reflect something that is accurate. but, tony, what gallup is putting out today, they put a post-debate performance question, and they had never seen in their history before seen such a jump or such a one-sided victory going back to 1992, 20 years ago. >> absolutely, bill. this was a game ink thatting moment without a doubt. even the focus groups taken that night were giving results that commentators were saying, we've done focus groups since the beginning of election. never has there been confirmed affirmative support of one candidate as a result of one performance. this is exactly why right now you see the president of and his campaign starting to grasp for straws. they're getting to the point they're getting a little desperate. trying to create this impression mitt romney lied his way through the debate. only one party says one thing or another that might not be totally factually true. you ha
what rasmussen was saying last week. give me sunday morning or monday because you need three days of rolling averages to really reflect something that is accurate. but, tony, what gallup is putting out today, they put a post-debate performance question, and they had never seen in their history before seen such a jump or such a one-sided victory going back to 1992, 20 years ago. >> absolutely, bill. this was a game ink thatting moment without a doubt. even the focus groups taken that night...
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the rasmussen polloes not wait democrats more heavily -- >> robopolling. >> we have an expert here in mark shields. >> we are in conservative wine country now. it is a miracle that ronald reagan won 49 states without fox news, rush limbaugh, sean hannity, drudge report, with the network's dominant and "the washington post" and "the new york times" ascended. mitt romney is being undone by some conspiracy out of a 7- eleven in falls church? [laughter] >> there was no other reagan. was unique and a political actor unlike any we have seen. putting mitt against him is unfair. he is not a great campaigner. i think he would be a great president, but he is not a great campaigner. evan is right. if the polls are 0.9% in one direction, there probably true. -- 90% in one direction, they are probably true. but you have to apply a formula by who is likely to show up. if you apply the model of the 2008lectorate, you get one result, highly pro-obama. but if you say the electorate will look more like 2004, then the race is even. i think that is the only argument that you could make. t a conirac it is
the rasmussen polloes not wait democrats more heavily -- >> robopolling. >> we have an expert here in mark shields. >> we are in conservative wine country now. it is a miracle that ronald reagan won 49 states without fox news, rush limbaugh, sean hannity, drudge report, with the network's dominant and "the washington post" and "the new york times" ascended. mitt romney is being undone by some conspiracy out of a 7- eleven in falls church? [laughter]...
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after the debate we had a poll out this was from the rasmussen report. they have barack obama 50% and mitt romney 49% and this is among likely ohio voters. seems to be a tightening in voters in ohio and everybody knows that is a crucial state. >> that is the whole kit and kaboodle. the path would be difficult if he does not win, ohio. rasmussen is a little bit of outliar here. more like 45. >> 49.36. >> so three. what you are seeing here is rasmussen is a little bit ahead of the curve. if he is in fact on his daily polling picking up something that is really good news for mitt romney. >> shannon: ed, what do you think, should the romney camp take it with a bit of cautious optimism? >> they shouldn't at all. execute their game plan. debated a tremendous bebait the other night. mitt romney made himself what he needed to be which was a viable alternative who put forth ideas o of how to get the economy moving again. the destates will will close up. i predict by the next debate this will be a dead even rate, dead even in the national polls and in the states c
after the debate we had a poll out this was from the rasmussen report. they have barack obama 50% and mitt romney 49% and this is among likely ohio voters. seems to be a tightening in voters in ohio and everybody knows that is a crucial state. >> that is the whole kit and kaboodle. the path would be difficult if he does not win, ohio. rasmussen is a little bit of outliar here. more like 45. >> 49.36. >> so three. what you are seeing here is rasmussen is a little bit ahead of...
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dallas has yet down to 40% and rasmussen has it tied at 48%. when we pushed the voters and asked which way they're leaning, the saner -- answer is closer, 48 to 48. >> reporter: results from the 2008 mom no said puts this race up for grabs. >> there is a lot happening in the next 30 days. >> reporter: in a fox 5 interview, senator mccain said the obama administration -- the libya consulate attack as part of a pattern, confusion in u.s.- form policy. >> how would we know that mitt romney would perform better as a president in similar situation in. >> a lot of times, tom, it's not the crime but the coverup. what is the worse thing is five days later, sending our u.n. ambassador at every news outlet saying this was a hateful video that caused a spontaneous demonstration. that is outrageous. >> reporter: with four weeks left, one campaign is trying to keep building its momentum while another is trying to rebuild. >> reporter: there are two more debates and the next will be a presidential debate on thursday and taking place in danville, kentucky. >>
dallas has yet down to 40% and rasmussen has it tied at 48%. when we pushed the voters and asked which way they're leaning, the saner -- answer is closer, 48 to 48. >> reporter: results from the 2008 mom no said puts this race up for grabs. >> there is a lot happening in the next 30 days. >> reporter: in a fox 5 interview, senator mccain said the obama administration -- the libya consulate attack as part of a pattern, confusion in u.s.- form policy. >> how would we know...
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rasmussen has a reputation for being a poll that makes republicans look good. gallup is considered a nonpartisan poll, not one with a tilt one way or the other. they show president obama up five points, though much closer for the post-debate portion of the sample. president obama was on the west coast today courting latinos, and he gave some remarks about the state of the economy and how it affects latinos. >> no matter who you are and what you look like or where you come from, this is the place where you can make it if you try. today we have more work to do to fulfill that promise. the recession we're fighting our way back from is still taking a toll, but thanks to the strength and character of american people, we are making progress. >> now, of course, latinos are one of the reasons president obama has been doing well in some of the western states like colorado, nevada, new mexico, as well as florida. we now have to see gin the smift in polls whether he can continue to remain on top and it sets up the vice presidential debate on thursday between paul ryan and
rasmussen has a reputation for being a poll that makes republicans look good. gallup is considered a nonpartisan poll, not one with a tilt one way or the other. they show president obama up five points, though much closer for the post-debate portion of the sample. president obama was on the west coast today courting latinos, and he gave some remarks about the state of the economy and how it affects latinos. >> no matter who you are and what you look like or where you come from, this is...
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but a new rasmussen poll of likely voters shows cain pull ago way with 52%. rasmussen has now moved the virginia senate race from toss- up to leaning democratic. >>> president obama spent the night in california at a fundraising concert in los angeles with a roster full of hollywood stars including actor george clooney, katie perry, stevie wonder, just to name a few. mitt romney is back in the battleground state of virginia today to deliver a speech on foreign policy at the virginia military institute in lexington. >>> two big tech firms in china are getting the cold shoulder from u.s. lawmakers. the house intelligence committee today releases a report warning american companies they should not do business with two chinese firms. the house panel says the firms pose a threat to national security based on recent cyberattacks traced to china. a maryland congressman spoke out last night on 60 minutes. >> we have evidence that china has been taxing us on a regular basis, even now as we speak that china has been taking a lot of our trade secrets, our papt ents from
but a new rasmussen poll of likely voters shows cain pull ago way with 52%. rasmussen has now moved the virginia senate race from toss- up to leaning democratic. >>> president obama spent the night in california at a fundraising concert in los angeles with a roster full of hollywood stars including actor george clooney, katie perry, stevie wonder, just to name a few. mitt romney is back in the battleground state of virginia today to deliver a speech on foreign policy at the virginia...
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in the rasmussen polls over the last two days, obama is doing better. that's consistent with the trend i talked about earlier. the question is whether obama gets an outsized bounce in states like ohio, nevada and iowa where he was doing better than nationally. if you look at all of the national polls conducted since the first debate, what you see is about a three point gain for romney. if that holds and if that uniformly filtering down to the battleground states, romney would still trail in iowa, ohio and alabama and obama would have a slight advantage ♪ electoral college. >> continuing our theme of what really matters, let's talk about the polls. obviously, polls don't vote. but do they sway the electorate? do they see one person as leading or gaining and some people decide to change their vote? is there some science on do polls actually shape the election itself? >> i don't think there's very much evidence that polls shift the election. if they did, i think we would see, you know, a clearer sign of that. what i think the public reacts to that is mom
in the rasmussen polls over the last two days, obama is doing better. that's consistent with the trend i talked about earlier. the question is whether obama gets an outsized bounce in states like ohio, nevada and iowa where he was doing better than nationally. if you look at all of the national polls conducted since the first debate, what you see is about a three point gain for romney. if that holds and if that uniformly filtering down to the battleground states, romney would still trail in...
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meantime, a new rasmussen poll shows romney ahead of president obama following last week's debate 49 to 47%. president obama's performance in the debate was the subject of a the laughter last night prompted by the president himself. here is what he had to say after he took the stage the a fundraiser in california following some big names including stevie wonder and katie perry. >> they just performed flawlessly night after night. i can't always say the same. ay but here is the good news is we've got a better vision for our country. we have a better plan for the next four years. >> president obama will be campaigning in california again today. >>> also making headlines this morning, the meningitis outbreak continues to spread. >> the pharmacy linked to the outbreak makes a move it is calling a precautionary measure. details on that coming up next. >>> also ahead, he was convicted of crimes that shattered lives and left a legendary football program tarnished. tomorrow, jerry sandusky will learn his fate. fox 5 morning news back in a moment. [ barack obama ] i'm barack obama, and i appr
meantime, a new rasmussen poll shows romney ahead of president obama following last week's debate 49 to 47%. president obama's performance in the debate was the subject of a the laughter last night prompted by the president himself. here is what he had to say after he took the stage the a fundraiser in california following some big names including stevie wonder and katie perry. >> they just performed flawlessly night after night. i can't always say the same. ay but here is the good news...
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that's the rasmussen poll. new at ten top of the hour, you will not believe how many immigrants are getting government assistance like food stamps and welfare. only a small fraction of immigration applicants are denied. the judge is coming up on that one, 10 a.m. eastern. all right. back to nicole, netflix shares, what leading the s&p 500? >> that's right. and first of all, netflix is volatile stock that we're talking about not only because everybody has it, but because of the moves on netflix. today the number one performer on s&p 500. now 4 1/2% on the heels of what we heard from research, a company blog and in the equity research blog they actually featured netflix as a top company in tech and in research and stuff, so, there you go. now jumping and leading the way, on a day where you have the markets, virtually flat. stuart: yeah, all right. you're right. it's a volatile stock. it came all the way down from 300 and change all the way down and now it bounces around 4 or 5% on any given day and that's why som
that's the rasmussen poll. new at ten top of the hour, you will not believe how many immigrants are getting government assistance like food stamps and welfare. only a small fraction of immigration applicants are denied. the judge is coming up on that one, 10 a.m. eastern. all right. back to nicole, netflix shares, what leading the s&p 500? >> that's right. and first of all, netflix is volatile stock that we're talking about not only because everybody has it, but because of the moves...
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which by the way, rasmussen is showing romney up 2 points nationally. >> what's happening is the polls tighten and the swing states start coming in. we have gone from he wasn't being truthful all the way up to being a liar. if the worst the numbers get the higher the pitch of rhetoric gets. but the president's walk -- building himself a potential trap because of the clip you showed, if i were advising governor romney for this debate i would trap the president to saying to my face what he and his campaign or saying or not. in this town hall debate, these are real people, they don't like this stuff. the president has a problem. if he goes too harsh on the attack they are not going to like it. megyn: i asked that of stirewalt. remember frank luntz that shows the dials. when the ad goes negative the dials go down. >> an insider's point. pat has seen the same thing. the dials can go negative but the vote can go down. i believe the vote goes down in their polling and testing and they the obama campaign believe it's a risk worth taking for one of the reasons pat suggested. the romney campaign
which by the way, rasmussen is showing romney up 2 points nationally. >> what's happening is the polls tighten and the swing states start coming in. we have gone from he wasn't being truthful all the way up to being a liar. if the worst the numbers get the higher the pitch of rhetoric gets. but the president's walk -- building himself a potential trap because of the clip you showed, if i were advising governor romney for this debate i would trap the president to saying to my face what he...
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looking at scott rasmussen tracking poll. this is the first poll based entirely on interviews after the debate. mitt romney had a modest debate bounce. the question is will it be a blip or lasting change. >> gretchen: look at the university of colorado forecasting model. this is interesting. this is the only model that looks at the electoral college and you need those votes to be president. 330, of the 538 map are going to mitt romney. this is the same out fit in august or september or august 22nd prediction they said the same thing. but romney picked up five more points. >> steve: what they do. they look at economics of what is going on nationally and local and state level . they look at wealth and they look at unemployment and all sorts of stuff. they predict mitt romney will win these states. new mexico and that is new since they updated it and, north carolina and win virginia ohio new hampshire colorado, wisconsin and ohio and florida and barack will win michigan and nevada. >> gretchen: i don't think that romney will win
looking at scott rasmussen tracking poll. this is the first poll based entirely on interviews after the debate. mitt romney had a modest debate bounce. the question is will it be a blip or lasting change. >> gretchen: look at the university of colorado forecasting model. this is interesting. this is the only model that looks at the electoral college and you need those votes to be president. 330, of the 538 map are going to mitt romney. this is the same out fit in august or september or...
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>> well they have been and we know from scott rasmussen today that the consumer confidence over the weekend shot up and boom, the president's ratings have gone up overnight since yesterday they've gone up because of that jobs number. >> yeah, that is huge. i think the president will use that. joe biden will use it in the debate. but ultimately the president believes he will win with negative because he doesn't have is a record to run on or defend. dagen: does mitt romney need to sit back and hope the president just makes some huge error at this point? >> i think he's got to keep doing what he's been doing which is to be as john said positive on the campaign trail, dagen, but also make it clear there's an alternative approach to failed policies. dagen: how do you think wednesday shakes out? what are the odds you putting on biden making a huge gaffe because that's the reason people will watch frankly. >> better than even odds that he will say something that he shouldn't say that will be a news item. and i think seriously i think this libya thing will be made an issue in that debate to set up
>> well they have been and we know from scott rasmussen today that the consumer confidence over the weekend shot up and boom, the president's ratings have gone up overnight since yesterday they've gone up because of that jobs number. >> yeah, that is huge. i think the president will use that. joe biden will use it in the debate. but ultimately the president believes he will win with negative because he doesn't have is a record to run on or defend. dagen: does mitt romney need to sit...
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the new rasmussen poll shows republican presidential nominee mitt romney leading president obama following last week's debate. romney has the lead with 49% to president obama's 47%. romney will deliver a speech on foreign policy at virginia military institute today. president obama will be campaigning and fund raising in california. >>> virginia's two contenders for jim web's soon to be empty seat will be back in the spotlight today. democratic tim kaine and republican george allen will debate in richmond. this comes as a new poll of likely voters shows kaine pulling ahead. now 52% of voters picked kaine, 45% back allen. >>> developing this morning, the number of rare meningitis cases linked to a tainted steroid treatment has risen to 91, spanning nine states and killing seven. another case was reported in maryland this weekend, bringing the total there to three. 18 cases have been reported in virginia with one death in each state. the massachusetts pharmacy linked to the outbreak has issued a voluntary recall of all of its products. officials say anyone who received the steroid injection
the new rasmussen poll shows republican presidential nominee mitt romney leading president obama following last week's debate. romney has the lead with 49% to president obama's 47%. romney will deliver a speech on foreign policy at virginia military institute today. president obama will be campaigning and fund raising in california. >>> virginia's two contenders for jim web's soon to be empty seat will be back in the spotlight today. democratic tim kaine and republican george allen...